My Dream Draft Scenario

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My Dream Draft Scenario

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My dream draft scenario that would tremendously improve our team is this.... We trade Rod Gardner to Tampa Bay for their 2nd round pick. Then heres what we do on draft day:

1st Round- We pray and we pray that USC Wideout Mike Williams drops this far, and if it does happen, it's because hes been away from the game for a year. If Mikes gone we take out chances on Braylon Edwards who is a Roy Williams type reciever (big, great athlete, good speed)

2nd Round- Once again we go with the offensive side of the ball and draft Michigan OG/C David Baas. This guy would become an immediate starter at Center and hopefully a pro bowler in the next two or three seasons. However, he's been rocketing up draft boards this past week after a damn good showing at the Senior Bowl. If he's gone we don't frown, but we smile and take Notre Dame DE Justin Tuck who can potentially become a 15 sack per year player.

3rd Round- Assuming we draft David Baas in round 2, this round we get OLB/DE tweener DeMarcus Ware from Troy State. Similar to Tuck, he has outstanding pass rush potential but he's played at OLB instead of his natural position of DE. More of a developmental pick but still a great pick. If we take J-Tuck in the 2nd round then we hope that LSU Center Ben Wilkerson or North Carolina C Jason Brown is availabe. Wilkerson has had a very successful career with great physical tools, while Brown is more a developmental prospect with BRUTE strength that simply cannot be taught.

4th Round- Everything past the 3rd Round IMO is too hard to predict but I'd love to take a chance on QB Adrian McPherson, former FSU Heisman candidate and AFL Star. Although he's had some past problems he's dedicated his last two years proving to the NFL he can stay out of trouble. This is a guy with tremendous potential, elite speed at QB (only vick will be faster), a cannon arm, and an amazing athlete. If we train this guy to become a pocket passer he can be a Donovan McNabb/ Daunte Culpepper type QB. This past week at the Senior Bowl he has been drawing significant interest from pro teams and although he thinks he'll go in the third round, I think he'll fall to us in round 4

5th Round- Pick belongs to Philly cause of the James Thrash trade

6th Round- Ronald Bartell, CB, Howard university... Although he hasnt faced top level competition at Howard, he's been making a name for himself at the senior bowl and has AMAZING physical tools. At 6-2, 200 pounds and 4.4 speed, he could match up against the Terrell Owens' and Randy Moss' (height wise :D )

7th Round- WHO CARES?

What do you guys think?
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Post by DaRealistJoka »

I think it is a pretty good draft but I like Math Roth for the first round pick.(Trade down and get him) He is the best DE in the draft to me. I have seen James and David, and I think Roth is the best, he had a great Senior bowl.
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I believe we need to trade down to a late first rounder and maybe acquire a second for our first round selection. We need to get a second for Rod and a second for Smoot if he leaves.

I like Bass but we need a more athletic center. He will be a good guard. I like Williams but I think we could make do with our receivers we have now. I really like McCants. We need cheaper players because when guys like Portis, Arrington, Coles etc start getting into the big years of their contract we need some good players that arent very expensive.

I believe our needs are center, corner, te, de. I think we can play LaVar at end. I hope we can resign Antonio Poerce for a decent contract. Dont break the bank for pierce...we may have to put Marshall in the middle and put 56 back at weakside lb. My point is we need to quit overpaying. JMO
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Post by ii7-V7 »

This is a pretty weak draft class, especially at the top. I'm not too sure that teams are going to want to trade up. Not saying it wont happen.

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I'd rather get a Free agent WR, then draft one. When you draft WR's they seem to take a few years to come around. If possible, trade down in the first round to get another pick. Take the best DE available in the 1st round. Get the best center available with the pick we get for Gardner. As I've said in a prior post - I really really believe we NEED a big bruising back for short yardage plays...I know the OLine didn't play well but we had a bunch of drives end when we should have gotten that one yard. I like Portis and Betts but I don't believe either can more the pack...Gibbs goes really conservative with a lead in the 4th -- he must have a big back to grind out the yards.

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I,m with you Chaddukes I get what we can for Gardner and McCants (they are both going folks...face it and I wan't something in return). I would take offers on our ninth pick also. This is not a top heavy draft but there are some good salary cap friendly pick ups later in the first and into the second round.
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7th Round- WHO CARES?


Get a Good Kicker. That way if we have Jeff win the Starting Job, we have someone to back him up who is good and accurate! Hall will always be injured(and innacurate) :?
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Post by washington53 »

its a very good draft, but Clinton Portis we dont need a good kicker i like Jeff Chandler
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Clinton Portis wrote:
7th Round- WHO CARES?


Get a Good Kicker. That way if we have Jeff win the Starting Job, we have someone to back him up who is good and accurate! Hall will always be injured(and innacurate) :?


If you want a good kicker, you want Mike Nugent from Ohio State. The guy is flat out $$. I can't even begin to tell you how many games he won for the Buckeyes. I just don't think he'll still be there in the 7th. He's THAT good.
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IF Nate Kaeding got drafted in the 3rd Round, then there's no way Nugent will be a day 2 pick. And since when is Hall innacurate?
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Since he's been injured.
(Althought posting a 96.1 Percent Avg, the 4% He usually misses are of the 40-49 yard variaty, usually the ones where he's needed most)

Don't get me wrong he has a power leg, but sometimes he's just a bit off, and that hurts in some game situations.

Jeff is a Good kicker though, it'll be hard to determine if he'll beat out Hall for the starting position.
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I'd take Nugent in the 3rd without even thinking about it. He is one of the best college kickers I've ever seen and drafting him would take care of one of this teams biggest problems since Chip Lohmiller left.
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JPM36 wrote:I'd take Nugent in the 3rd without even thinking about it. He is one of the best college kickers I've ever seen and drafting him would take care of one of this teams biggest problems since Chip Lohmiller left.


Not just college. I heard that there was only ONE professional kicker this past season with a better kicking percentage. I'm not one for finding out if that's true, but I believe it. He's a stud. I'm sure somebody here can check on that and let us all know.

What kind of $$ is Hall making? Would it be a good idea to get Nuge? I would say "yes", without knowing the numbers. There's not a more clutch guy. I'd even take him over Vinitieri(sp?).
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Nugent could be a low second round guy.... We won't get him.

I actually find this funny since Janikowski(The guy with the Raiders.)is better than him, but FSU was always killing people so he didn't get to show off his abilities.
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first of all, I'm a huge skins fan from chicago..secondly, for who ever is dreaming of mike williams falling to the 9th pick, needs to wake up!! As we know the defense is VERY good..offensive, we need ALOT of help...I really hope Gibbs drafts an impact player at the 9th pick or trade up and get either williams or aaron rogers(qb)..ramsey is not the answer!! or trade down and grab micheal clayton WR....WE NEED TO SCORE MORE POINTS JOE!!!!!!!!!! OFFENSIVE LINE AND RECEIVER..
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Smithian wrote:Nugent could be a low second round guy.... We won't get him.

I actually find this funny since Janikowski(The guy with the Raiders.)is better than him, but FSU was always killing people so he didn't get to show off his abilities.


I know you're not serious about Janikowski being better. He may have a SLIGHTLY stronger leg, but is no where near as accurate, not to mention what kind of character he has as compared to Nuge.

You may be right about us not being able to get him, buy we may trade down to get more picks. Who really knows until the day arrives.
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Post by Scooter »

I don't think Nuggent is a second round pick. I don't think he's a Top 100 pick. Keading was taken too high. Lot's of DE's, lots of RB's, lots of WR's and some depth at O-line.

Overall top talent is weaker, but the depth is better - I think that pushes Nuggent back to the third - maybe fourth round... my apologies to Kiper :0)
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Wide reciever in the draft is always risky. I have begun to believe in Williams, Edwards should be gone. If Williams is not there we really need to trade down as we can get a need at DE or WR at 18-27, and get a good pick. A very good center should be available in the the third. Center rankings from me:


1. Ben Wilkerson, 6-4, 300, LSU - Projected -2nd-5th round-
An injury seems to have caused Wilkerson’s stock to drop some. Early he was rated as a second round pick. Lately he is rated from anywhere in the third round to the fifth round.
(6-4, 297, estimated 5.28 40 time)
Positives: Possesses good athletic ability for a center. Can pull and does a great job of making blocks in space. Is fundamentally sound and is a very intelligent player. Has been an outstanding college football player.
Negatives: Only has average strength and will struggle to hold his own against some of the stronger, more physical defensive tackles. May have an injury concern with one of his knees.
Overall analysis: Ben Wilkerson is an excellent center who should be picked within the first two rounds of the 2005 NFL Draft. Wilkerson moved into Louisiana State’s starting lineup in 2001 and started in 9 contests. He started in 10 games as a sophomore, missing his team’s bowl game with a back injury, and started in all 14 games as a junior. Despite the fact that he’s shown good durability over that time frame, Wilkerson does have some problems with one of his knees and that could be a concern for NFL scouts. Wilkerson is a very good athlete for a center. He does a nice job of pulling and blocking in space. He knows blocking angles, possesses good footwork and uses his hands well. He is also a super-smart player who makes all the line calls and understands the nuances of playing on the offensive line. Other than the possible problem with his knee, the only other real knock on Wilkerson is that he lacks top strength. Overall Wilkerson is an excellent football player who has an outside chance of being a first round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm


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1. 2003 Rimington Trophy Finalist
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Returns as LSU’s starting center for the fourth season ... Rated as one of the nation's top centers ... Named a preseason All-America at center by several publications ... Earned Second-Team All-America honors at center from the Associated Press and ESPN.com in 2003 ... Called the quickest lineman in the SEC by the Sporting News in its preseason college football issue for the second straight year ... Has started 33 games at center for the Tigers over the last two years and LSU is 27-6 in those games ... Solid all-around game ... Makes good decisions and checks on the offensive line ... Possesses good footwork, great technique and will finish his career as one of the most dominating centers to ever wear an LSU uniform ... Very smart player who is mature beyond his years.
2. JUNIOR SEASON (2003)
One of the nation's top centers ... Named one of six finalists for the Rimington Award in 2003, which goes to college football's top center ... Named Second-Team All-America by the Sporting News and the Associated Press ... Named First-Team All-SEC at center by AP and ESPN.com ... Started all 14 games for the Tigers ... Saw action in 991 plays, the second-most of any player on the team ... Allowed only three sacks and called for just three penalties all year ... In 991 snaps, was marked down for just 10 bad snaps ... Went from week seven to the Sugar Bowl with only three bad snaps ... Had 13 pancakes and 87 knockdowns for the Tigers.
SOPHOMORE SEASON (2002)
Started 10-of-13 games for the Tigers in 2002 ... Sat out the Cotton Bowl with a back injury ... Snapped on field goals and PATs as well ... Missed The Citadel and Miami (Ohio) games with a combination knee/ankle injury ... Extremely smart and gifted player ... Named to the SEC Good Works Team ... Played 620 snaps in 2002 and did not allow a sack all season ... Had only three bad snaps all year and was whistled for just three penalties.
TRUE FRESHMAN SEASON (2001)
True freshman who won the starting role at center for the Tigers ... Named Second-Team Freshman All-America by the Sporting News and earned Freshman All-SEC honors by both the AP and the Coaches ... Emerged as LSU’s starting center vs. Kentucky when injuries forced Rob Sale to move from center to right guard ... Played well enough to keep the position ... Started final nine games of the season for the Tigers, including the Sugar Bowl ... LSU posted an 8-1 mark with Wilkerson starting at center ... Also snapped on PAT and FG attempts ... In all, played in 11 games with nine starts.
HIGH SCHOOL
Called by many as the top offensive line prospect in America ... Named All-American by Parade, USA Today, Rivals.com, Superprep, ESPN, and The Sporting News ... Rated as the No. 21 overall prospect in the nation by Tom Lemming of ESPN.com ... Recorded 121 pancake blocks as a senior and graded out at over 95 percent for the year ... Helped team averaged 399 rushing yards a contest and 9.2 yards per carry ... Listed as the No. 16 prep prospect according to SuperPrep ... Rated among Max Emfinger’s top 125 national prospects as well as the Dallas Morning News’ top 100 for the nation ... Member of Dave Campbell’s Texas Super Team ... Earned first team All-District, All-County and All-State honors ... Coached by Larry Upshaw.
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Full name is Benjamin Lorenza Wilkerson ... Goes by Ben ... Born November 22, 1982 in Port Arthur, Texas ... Parents are Charles and Vermykia Proctor ... Has four brothers, Demarcus, Charles, Trey and Celvin and three sisters, Brandi, Diamond, and Allanah ... Favorite book is Shakespeare's Othello ... Wears #55 because that's the same number his grandfather wore during his prep days at Hemphill High ... Majoring in general studies.

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Positives
- Possesses good athletic ability for a center. Can pull and does a great job of making blocks in space. Is fundamentally sound and is a very intelligent player. Has been an outstanding college football player

Weaknesses
-Only has average strength and will struggle to hold his own against some of the stronger, more physical defensive tackles. May have an injury concern with one of his knees.

Overall Analysis
Ben Wilkerson is an excellent center who should be picked within the first two rounds of the 2005 NFL Draft. Wilkerson moved into Louisiana State’s starting lineup in 2001 and started in 9 contests. He started in 10 games as a sophomore, missing his team’s bowl game with a back injury, and started in all 14 games as a junior. Despite the fact that he’s shown good durability over that time frame, Wilkerson does have some problems with one of his knees and that could be a concern for NFL scouts. Wilkerson is a very good athlete for a center. He does a nice job of pulling and blocking in space. He knows blocking angles, possesses good footwork and uses his hands well. He is also a super-smart player who makes all the line calls and understands the nuances of playing on the offensive line. Other than the possible problem with his knee, the only other real knock on Wilkerson is that he lacks top strength. Overall Wilkerson is an excellent football player who has an outside chance of being a first round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.
Injury information
http://www.collegesports.com/sports/m-f ... 04abo.html
LSU center Wilkerson out for season with knee injury

Senior had started 41 games in career
1. Oct. 31, 2004
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - LSU center Ben Wilkerson will miss the remainder of the 2004 season with a ruptured tendon in his left knee.
Wilkerson was injured in the fourth quarter of LSU's 24-7 win over Vanderbilt on Saturday. He was expected to have surgery to repair the patella tendon on Monday. Wilkerson, a senior, has started 41 games at LSU and is one of the top centers in the country.


2. Chris Spencer C 6-3, 310 Mississippi - Projected from 2nd to 5th round

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2004: Named All-SEC by Southeastern Football Saturdays ... Earned honorable mention All-SEC honors from The Associated Press ... Earned his third letter ... Started at center in all 11 games ... vs. Memphis (9/4): Helped the offensive line not allow a sack ... vs. Vanderbilt (9/18): Helped pave the way for junior RB Vashon Pearson's 111-yard rushing effort ... at Wyoming (9/25): Ole Miss generated a season-high 567 yards of total offense ... The Rebels recorded 221 yards rushing, including 139 yards by Pearson in what was his second straight 100-yard rushing performance ... vs. Arkansas State (10/2): Started at right guard, his first career start at that position ... Helped Pearson record his third consecutive 100-yard rushing game, netting 129 yards on 24 carries ... The offensive line did not allow a sack ... at South Carolina (10/9): Helped the offensive line not allow a sack for the second straight week ... vs. Auburn (10/30): The Rebels recorded their second-highest offensive output of the season, generating 433 yards of total offense against the nation's fourth-ranked defense ... at Arkansas (11/13): Earned Quarterback Club Trench Player of the Week honors after helping Ole Miss total 343 yards of offense, including 175 rushing ... vs. Mississippi State (11/27): Helped Ole Miss total a season-high 283 yards rushing in the 20-3 victory ... Earned SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week honors ...Spring 2004: Emerged from spring drills as the No. 1 center ... Named third team preseason All-SEC by Phil Steele's College Football Review.
2003: Appeared in all 13 games ... Started the season's first four games at center ... Start against Vanderbilt (8/30) in the season opener was the first of his career ... Also drew the start in the regular-season finale against Mississippi State (11/27) ... Helped Ole Miss rank first in the SEC in scoring (34.0 ppg), passing (286.0 ypg), and total offense (433.2 ypg) ... Ole Miss averaged 147.2 ypg rushing, an improvement of 52.9 yards per game from 2002 ... The Rebels set school season offensive record for points scored (442), TD passes (31), passing yards (3,718), passing yards per game (286.0), first downs (295), offensive plays (940), total offense (5,631) and total offense per game (433.2) ... It was the first time Ole Miss scored over 400 points in a season and the fourth straight year the Rebels have topped the 300-point mark ... Earned his second letter ... at Memphis (9/6): Named Quarterback Club's co-Trench Player of the Week ... vs. Louisiana-Monroe (9/13): Helped Ole Miss total 225 yards rushing and 612 yards of total offense ... The 612 yards of offense was the second-highest single-game total in school history ... Helped the offense not allow a sack ... vs. Texas Tech (9/27): The Rebels generated 578 yards of total offense ... at Florida (10/4): Did not start at center for the first time this season ... Ole Miss recorded 485 yards of offense in the 20-17 win over the No. 24 Gators ... Helped the Rebels generate 223 yards rushing, including 107 by Ronald McClendon to give Ole Miss its first 100-yard rusher in 16 games ... vs. Arkansas State (10/11): Helped the offense post the eighth-highest single-game output in school history with 582 yards of total offense in the 55-0 win ... Ole Miss did not allow sack ... vs. Alabama (10/18): Ole Miss scored over 40 points for the fourth time this season to tie a school record in the 43-28 victory ... The Rebels recorded 216 yards rushing to post its third game this season with over 200 yards on the ground ... vs. South Carolina (11/1): Helped the Rebels total 538 yards of total offense in the 43-40 win, marking the fourth time this season Ole Miss has recorded over 500 yards of offense in a game ... The 43 points was also the Rebels' fifth game of 40 or more points to set a school single-season record for 40-point games ... at Mississippi State (11/27): Helped the offense not allow a sack in the 31-0 win ... Cotton Bowl (1/2): Helped the offensive line not allow a sack in the 31-28 win over Oklahoma State.
2002: Saw action in all 13 games ... Earned his first letter ... Made his collegiate debut in the season opener against UL-Monroe (8/31) ... Part of the rotation on the offensive line that was second in the SEC in the fewest sacks allowed (14) ... Ole Miss generated over 350 yards of total offense in 8-of-13 games, including at least 450 yards in four contests ... vs. UL-Monroe (8/31)-Memphis (9/7): Saw first career action in the season opener versus the Indians ... Helped pave the way for RB Robert Williams to open the season with back-to-back 100-yard rushing efforts ... Ole Miss gained 180 yards rushing in the season-opening 31-3 win over the Indians and 214 yards on the ground in the 38-16 win over the Tigers ... vs. Arkansas State (10/12): The Rebels rolled up a season-high 508 yards of total offense, including 320 yards passing, in a 52-17 win.
2001: Redshirted.
HIGH SCHOOL: Considered one of the top offensive linemen in the nation and the No. 1 overall player from the State of Mississippi ... Named to Parade, USA Today, and Reebok's ESPN All-America first teams ... SuperPrep All-America pick who was rated by that publication as the nation's No. 2 offensive lineman and No. 30 overall prospect ... Rated first team All-America and All-Southeast by Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report ... Was on Rivals100.com, The Max Emfinger USA Today.com, and Student Sports All-America first teams ... Made Tom Lemming's Top 100 list, plus was on SuperPrep Elite 50 list and PrepStar Top 120 Dream Team ... BorderWars.com Top 100 selection and nation's No. 1 rated offensive lineman ... Also made BorderWars.com All-South first team ... Student Sports and PrepStar picked him as the nation's No. 4 offensive lineman prospect ... PrepStar Super 30 All-Southeast Region ... On Max Emfinger.rivals.com Nifty 150 Bluechips list ... Ranked No. 22 on Rivals100 Top 100 list and No. 26 on Student Sports Top 100 list ... Orlando Sentinel All-Southern first team choice ... Was selected Player of the Year in Mississippi by both Gatorade and Jeff Whitaker's Deep South Football publication ... Ranked as the No. 1 player in Mississippi on The Clarion-Ledger's "Most Wanted" list ... Also chosen No. 1 player in Mississippi by SuperPrep ... Played in 2001 Mississippi-Alabama All-Star Classic in Mobile, Ala. ... As a senior, was listed on every All-State first team and was also on All-Metro team squad ... Selected to PrepStar Top 125 Dream Team prior to senior season ... Named to Fox Sports Net's Countdown to Signing Day "All-South" first team ... Named second team All-State as a junior ... Was outstanding run blocker in high school as he was powerful and dominating at offensive tackle ... Coached by Mike Justice ... Helped lead Madison Central to Class 5A state championship in 1999 as the Jaguars went a perfect 15-0 ... Team was 10-3 during senior season ...Won Class 5A Super Heavyweight powerlifting championship of Mississippi junior and senior years, and holds all the lift records ... During senior season, broke his own state record in the powerlifting competition, which is determined by combined weight lifted in three events (the squat, the bench press, and the dead lift) when he totaled 1,675 pounds ... That effort broke his own state record of 1,665 pounds set in South State competition earlier in the year.
PERSONAL: Son of Sharon Wallace and Renna Fisher ... Full name is Christopher Clarks Spencer ... Born: March 28, 1982 ... Majoring in Criminal Justice.

Ole Miss Center Chris Spencer To Bypass Senior Season For NFL Draft

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After redshirting his first season in 2001, Spencer played in all 37 games.
Jan. 10, 2005
OXFORD, Miss. - Ole Miss junior center Chris Spencer of Madison, Miss., has decided to pass up his senior year of eligibility in order to make himself available for the April 23-24, 2005, National Football League draft.
"This was a tough decision, but one I felt I needed to make after getting the facts from the NFL," Spencer said. "I was projected in the second round and that's high for a center. I've always dreamed of playing on that level and this is an opportunity I didn't want to pass up.
"I had a great time at Ole Miss and have never regretted my decision to attend Ole Miss. I'll miss my teammates, but Ole Miss will always be a part of me, and I will be back from time to time."
"While we were certainly looking forward to having him back for his senior season, we wish Chris and his family well as he continues his playing career," said new Ole Miss head coach Ed Orgeron.
http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0308/22/vum01a.html
SPENCER PRAISE: Chris Spencer's play at center the past week has drawn high praise from teammate and nose tackle Jesse Mitchell. Mitchell has lined up across from Spencer when the starting defense has faced the first-team offense in drills.
1. Spencer, a 6-4, 320-pound sophomore from Madison Central, was moved from guard to center when projected starter Justin Sawyer suffered a knee injury.
"I told him that if I had to rank him against the centers that I faced in the SEC last season, he'd be in the top three," Mitchell said of Spencer. "He's surprised the stew out of me. He's a natural center. I don't ever want to see him play another position again."


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- Center Chris Spencer, Jr. - Spencer is a huge center at 310 pounds looking like one of the rising stars in the SEC. He's on the Rimington Award watch list after moving over from guard this spring. He's a leader and quarterback in the middle.

3. Vince Carter, 6-3, 290, 4.85 Forty -Oklahoma- Projected 3rd to 5th round. Considered one of the top college centers, a lack of size and strength has him dropping in the draft.

Vince Carter/Oklahoma
1. (6-3, 294, estimated 5.10 40 time)
Positives: Is a very good athlete for a center. Is a fundamentally sound player who shows great football intelligence. Is very quick into his blocks. Has been an excellent college football player.
Negatives: Lacks ideal size. Is not very powerful and can get pushed around by bigger, more physical defenders. Will likely be limited to playing center at the next level.
Overall analysis: Vince Carter is a very good center prospect who will likely be a day one pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. Carter didn’t take long to make an impact at Oklahoma, as he started in 10 contests during his true freshman season in 2001. He has been Oklahoma’s starting center since that time, but has missed 2 games over the last two seasons due to injury. Carter was a second team All-Big 12 selection following his sophomore season and a first team All-Big 12 selection following his junior season. Carter is a very good athlete for a center. He has very good quickness and agility. He also is a smart football player who knows all the tricks of offensive line play. But most importantly, Carter is a really good football player. However, Carter does have some weaknesses that could limit his effectiveness at the next level. Carter isn’t very big; in fact, he’s probably a 270 pounder that has pumped up to 290 pounds. And his lack of size hurts him, as he will occasionally get manhandled by a bigger, more physical defensive tackle. Carter’s lack of size will likely limit him to the center position in the NFL. But despite the negatives, Carter is an excellent football player who should be a day one pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm




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Positives
- Is a very good athlete for a center. Is a fundamentally sound player who shows great football intelligence. Is very quick into his blocks. Has been an excellent college football player.
Weaknesses
Lacks ideal size. Is not very powerful and can get pushed around by bigger, more physical defenders. Will likely be limited to playing center at the next level.

Overall Analysis
Vince Carter is a very good center prospect who will likely be a day one pick in the 2005 NFL Draft. Carter didn’t take long to make an impact at Oklahoma, as he started in 10 contests during his true freshman season in 2001. He has been Oklahoma’s starting center since that time, but has missed 2 games over the last two seasons due to injury. Carter was a second team All-Big 12 selection following his sophomore season and a first team All-Big 12 selection following his junior season. Carter is a very good athlete for a center. He has very good quickness and agility. He also is a smart football player who knows all the tricks of offensive line play. But most importantly, Carter is a really good football player. However, Carter does have some weaknesses that could limit his effectiveness at the next level. Carter isn’t very big; in fact, he’s probably a 270 pounder that has pumped up to 290 pounds. And his lack of size hurts him, as he will occasionally get manhandled by a bigger, more physical defensive tackle. Carter’s lack of size will likely limit him to the center position in the NFL. But despite the negatives, Carter is an excellent football player who should be a day one pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... arter.html

Strengths: Very experience having started since his true freshman season...Excellent athlete...Tough and durable...Displays good technique and awareness...Very mobile and will block beyond the first level well...A Leader. Weaknesses: Doesn't have the size you look for...Needs to get bigger and stronger...Will struggle against big nose tackles...Will get pushed around at times...Flaws will become even more apparent at the pro level. Notes: Highly decorated college player who doesn't project well to the pros...Doesn't have the ideal physical tools you look for but brings just about everything else to the table.

4. Jason Brown C 6-3, 330 North Carolina -Projected 4th to 5th round
One of the most underrated prospects in all of college football, Brown managed to start every game in 2003 without giving up a sack. As a future NFL player, he has decent size and good feet. He is an extremely hard worker and can really be an outstanding run blocker. Look for him to get mid-round looks next April. http://www.nfldraftworld.com/05op.htm
Jason Brown/North Carolina
2. (6-3, 312, estimated 5.51 40 time)
Positives: Has good strength and plays with good leverage. Possesses good quickness and agility for a center. Is a tough competitor.
Negatives: Has trouble reaching defenders on the second level. Needs to stay in shape, slows down when too heavy.
Overall analysis: Jason Brown is a good center who has a chance to develop into an NFL starter. Brown started in three games for the Tar Heels during his true freshman season in 2001, and has been North Carolina’s starting center ever since. Brown is very strong for his size and generally plays with good pad level. He also has very good quickness and agility. Brown is a battler who seems to have a competitive nature. However, Brown does not run real well and he has trouble when having to block on the second level. He also has been overweight in the past, and his level of play suffers when he is not in top shape. But when assessing his strength and agility, Brown appears to be one of the better center prospects available for the 2005 NFL Draft. Brown currently carries an early day two grade. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm



http://tarheelblue.collegesports.com/sp ... son00.html

• 2004 All-ACC candidate
• Rimington Award Candidate as the nation's top center (2003, 2004)
• Ranked the No. 9 center in the country by The Sporting News
Has started 27 games in his career, including 24 straight at center • Has excellent quickness for an offensive lineman of his size • One of the strongest players in the country according to UNC strength and conditioning coordinator Jeff Connors • Set school records in each of the last three years for offensive linemen in the weight room • Has the UNC record in the squat (775 lbs.) and power clean (419 lbs.) and his combined pounds lifted in the squat, bench press, and power clean are a school record (1,669 lbs.) • Twice earned "Super Ram" status in the weight room and is a three-time member of UNC's strength & conditioning honor roll •Offensive line coach Hal Hunter says Brown has NFL potential and could be one of the best centers ever to play at North Carolina • He and his wife, Tay, were married July 25, 2003.
2003: Junior season
Started all 12 games at center and played more snaps than any other player on offense • Played 818 snaps, an average of 68 per game • Did not allow a sack all season • A powerful and explosive center who is a key component of Carolina's rushing game • Often running behind Brown's massive frame, Carolina averaged over 150 yards rushing per game, its highest average since 1995 • Graded out at 91 percent (80 is excellent in UNC's system) and had six knockdown blocks in the win over Wake Forest • Started against NC State, just six days after learning of the death of his brother, Lunsford, in Iraq • Started against East Carolina and graded out at 84 percent with five knockdown blocks • Graded out at 88 percent and had five knockdown blocks against Wisconsin • Sprained his knee against the Badgers, but returned two series later • Had nine knockdown blocks and a 90 percent grade against Syracuse •Graded out at 83 percent against FSU with five knockdown blocks.
2002: Sophomore season
Switched from tackle to center in the spring to play what offensive line coach Hal Hunter calls "the most important position" on the offensive line • Started all 12 games at center • Played 896 snaps, an average of 75 snaps per game • Saw action on a season-high 87 snaps in Carolina's win at Arizona State • Graded out over 80 percent in all but one game • Allowed just two sacks.
2001: Freshman season
Saw his first action of the season against Florida State in the fourth game of the season • Helped bolster UNC's offensive line with solid run blocking throughout the season • Earned three starts during the season • Started against East Carolina, Virginia and Clemson • Carolina had back-to-back 200-yard rushing games against Virginia and Clemson • Did not play against Georgia Tech because of an injured ankle • Played on 216 snaps in eight games, an average of 27 per game, including a season-high 43 against the Cavaliers.
Northern Vance High School:
Two-time North Conference 2-A Lineman of the Year • Member of Tom Lemming's All-Mid Atlantic Coast Team • Two-year starter at offensive tackle and defensive tackle • Averaged four pancake blocks a game • Team rushed for more than 3,000 yards in his junior and senior seasons • Team was 7-4 in 2000, losing to the eventual 2-A state champion in the playoffs •Recorded 73 tackles on defense • Voted offensive captain of the North Carolina Shrine Bowl team • Two-time discus state champion • Attended Governor's School • National Honor Society member • Ranked among the top 10 in his academic class • Coached by Randy Long.
Personal:
Born Jason Brown on May 5, 1983 in Henderson, N.C. • Enrolled in the General College • Has one older brother and one older sister • Hobbies include collecting coins and singing • Favorite NFL team as a kid was the Washington Redskins • Favorite meal is the victory meal of steak and lobster • Best friend on another team is Jarvise Hargrove of North Carolina Central University • Selected No. 72 because he wore it in high school • Best word to describe him is "original" • Best athletic moment was his first start against ECU • Goal is to earn All-ACC honors in his first year at center.

http://www.rimingtontrophy.com/2004_rim ... ort_10.htm


Jason Brown, North Carolina - Henderson, NC, 6' 3", 312lbs, Senior, Major: Communications - Personal & Organizational. Has started 27 games in his career, including 24 straight at center. Has excellent quickness for an offensive lineman of his size. Last year in his 12 starts at center he did not allow a sack all season. Jason has set school records in each of the last three years for offensive linemen in the weight room. Has the UNC record in the squat (775 lbs.) and power clean (419 lbs.) and his combined pounds lifted in the squat, bench press, and power clean are a school record (1,669 lbs.)
3. Jason Brown on the Tar Heel's goals for the season:
"We have a challenging season and face a lot of competitive teams in our conference like NC State, but we are willing to take the challenge. [Personally], I want to be a more vocal leader on the field. This year I want to be able to stand up and take charge"


5. Richie Incognito Center Nebraska - 6' 3'’ 300, 40 5.2 Round 2-FA
Might have best skills at center of all the centers available. Character issues unless his position was middle linebacker.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... gnito.html

Strengths: Tremendous strength...Versatile and could project to OT, OG or C...Good athletic ability...Tough as nails...Productive college player...Great measurables in terms of size and speed. Weaknesses: Has some major character concerns...Kicked off two teams in a very short period of time...Has a history of losing his temper both on and off the field...A major risk for any team that drafts him. Notes: Future is very much up in the air...Has the tools and ability of a first day pick...Character will be heavily scrutinized and that will ultimately determine his pro future.

http://www.fanblogs.com/big12/archives/001487.php
The odd tale of Nebraska center Richie Incognito just keeps getting stranger. Now 1. Incognito has left Nebraska with no real plans of what to do next. A first-team all Big 12 selection last year, Incognito has yet to hit the field this year, mainly because he's been suspended for hitting just about everything else. In his career at NU, Incognito was suspended for on-field fights, spitting on opposing players, bowl-game fights, off-field fights with charges filed, and locker room fights. I think I'm starting to see a trend here.
Let's be honest, Incognito is an NFL-caliber center who's a hot-head. At 6'3", 300 - he's got the size and talent - without question. He doesn't "play well with others". He had gotten last spring's suspension lifted & played all year. This spring when he was suspended, I'm sure he figured it was more of the same. Well, Callahan is having none of it. So, Incognito did the only thing he could - drop out of school.
Someone else will give Richie Ingcognito another shot because...well...someone always does until you can't play anymore and end up selling your college rings in a pawn shop. So, when your favorite pro team picks this guy up as a "steal" in the draft, just get ready...he's just one snap away from...er...snapping.

After being suspended for the first two weeks of the season, Nebraska junior C Richie Incognito has been released of his scholarship and plans to transfer. Incognito has had his share of problems at Nebraska, including an arrest last February, a suspension in the spring of 2003 by former coach Frank Solich and an ejection for fighting as a freshman. But the junior may be the most nasty and athletic center in the country, having played left tackle his first two seasons before being moved in the spring and will continue to be monitored closely by scouts. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Co ... 091504.htm



6. Raymond “Duke” Preston Illinois Rd 5-7
1. (6-5, 305, estimated 5.46 40 time)
Positives: Possesses good size and strength. Good short area player who can eliminate defenders if he gets his hands on them. Intelligent player who is fundamentally sound.
Negatives: Has limited mobility and lacks great foot quickness. Is a limited athlete. Does not possess much upside potential.
Overall analysis: Raymond “Duke” Preston is a solid college offensive lineman who gets the most out of his ability. Preston redshirted in 2000 and saw limited action as a backup in 2001. He moved into the starting lineup at center as a sophomore and has remained there ever since. Preston is a limited athlete. He does not possess great quickness and agility and is not very mobile. However, Preston is a player that gets the most out of his ability. He does have good size and strength, and can hold his own against the big, powerful defensive tackles. Preston lacks the upside potential to be a top center prospect, but he may be a good enough player to stick on an NFL roster. Preston currently carries a mid to late day two grade. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm

Positives
- Third-year starter at center, learned under former All-Big 10 center Luke Butkus. Good size and strength at 6’5”, 305 pounds. Consistent in pass protection, allowing only 6 hurries and one sack last season. Also shows strong run-blocking ability, and has experience in both areas in a pro-style offense
Weaknesses
- Average quickness and acceleration. Not dominating in any area. Considered slightly tall for a center, may need to improve on lowering stance to get leverage against two-gap tackles and nose guards.

Overall Analysis

- Raymond “Duke” Preston is a solid college offensive lineman who gets the most out of his ability. Preston redshirted in 2000 and saw limited action as a backup in 2001. He moved into the starting lineup at center as a sophomore and has remained there ever since. Preston is a limited athlete. He does not possess great quickness and agility and is not very mobile. However, Preston is a player that gets the most out of his ability. He does have good size and strength, and can hold his own against the big, powerful defensive tackles. Preston lacks the upside potential to be a top center prospect, but he may be a good enough player to stick on an NFL roster. Preston currently carries a mid to late day two grade. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/Profiles/d ... rofile.htm

Strengths: Has good size...Very tough and strong...A hard worker who always gives his all...Technically sound...Very smart and has the goods mentally to make it. Weaknesses: Very limited athletically and now very fast...Lack of physical tools will be much more glaring in the pros...Upside may be limited at the next level. Notes: Real first name is Raymond...Dad is a former San Diego Charger linebacker...Player who gets the most out of his ability and could develop into a solid backup at the pro level. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... eston.html


7. Scott Mruczkowski 6' 4'’, 305, 40 time 5.1 Projection Rd 5-FA

Scott Mruczkowski/Bowling Green
1. (6-4, 319, estimated 5.36 40 time)
Positives: Possesses good size and strength. Is a fundamentally sound player who does a great job in using his hands and feet. Could likely play center or either guard position in the NFL.
Negatives: Is only an average athlete. Lacks foot quickness and only has average agility. Has limited upside potential.
Overall analysis: Scott Mruczkowski is a very good player who appears to be one of the better center prospects available in the 2005 NFL Draft. Scott’s older brother Gene played at Purdue University and currently is a backup center/right guard for the New England Patriots. Scott redshirted at Bowling Green during the 2000 season. He started 23 games at the left guard position during 2001 and 2002 before switching to center and playing at that position during his junior and senior seasons. Mruczkowski has very good size and strength for a center. He is well-coached, knows how to use his hands, and does a nice job with his footwork. He has enough ability where he could play center or guard at the next level. As far as the negatives, Mruczkowski is only an average athlete. He does not have very quick feet and he lacks top agility. In summary, Mruczkowski should be no worse than a versatile NFL backup who could eventually earn a spot in the starting lineup. Mruczkowski currently carries a mid day two grade.
http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm




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Positives
Brother Gene is on the Patriots roster this season. Mruczkowski gets good positioning on the line of scrimmage and plays the best in small zones. He has a lot of experience playing 37 games coming into 2004, and it's helped his knowledge of angles and football intelligence.
Weaknesses
- Sometimes it seems like Mruczkowski plays heavier and slower than he is causing some questions about his desire. Mid-American Conference defensive linemen don't keep teams up at night so he might be excelling against weaker competition.
Overall Analysis
- Scott Mruczkowski is a very good player who appears to be one of the better center prospects available in the 2005 NFL Draft. Scott’s older brother Gene played at Purdue University and currently is a backup center/right guard for the New England Patriots. Scott redshirted at Bowling Green during the 2000 season. He started 23 games at the left guard position during 2001 and 2002 before switching to center and playing at that position during his junior and senior seasons. Mruczkowski has very good size and strength for a center. He is well-coached, knows how to use his hands, and does a nice job with his footwork. He has enough ability where he could play center or guard at the next level. As far as the negatives, Mruczkowski is only an average athlete. He does not have very quick feet and he lacks top agility. In summary, Mruczkowski should be no worse than a versatile NFL backup who could eventually earn a spot in the starting lineup. Mruczkowski currently carries a mid day two grade.


http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... owski.html
Strengths: Has good size and strength for the position...Good technician who does the little things it takes to succeed...Can take advantage of defenders due to his physical dimensions...Smart...Versatile. Weaknesses: Not a very explosive athlete...Limited in terms of his mobility and may not be able to handle the center position in the pros...Struggles in space. Notes: Could project to guard in the NFL...Has an older brother Gene that played at Purdue...Productive college player who has some tools to work with.

Practice East/West shrine game
http://www.shrinegame.com/game_01_11_05.php
Up front, Illinois center/guard Duke Preston showed good versatility, as he played both spots again this morning, and also deep snapped on field goal attempts. Bowling Green center Scott Mruczkowski, Florida offensive tackle Jonathan Colon and Iowa offensive tackle Peter McMahon also did some good things during the two-hour practice session. Their opponent’s during the 1-on-1 drills were no slouches either, as Minnesota defensive end Darrell Reid and Arkansas defensive end Jeb Huckeba each made several impressive pass rush moves, which allowed them to pressure the East roster quarterback’s during both 9-on-7 and team drills.

8. Junius Coston/North Carolina A&T 5RD-FA (6-3, 305, estimated 5.15 40 time)
Positives: Has a good combination of size and athletic ability. Moves well and has quick feet. Has played multiple offensive line positions while in college.
Negatives: Needs to do a better job of using his hands. Sometimes appears to be coasting and needs to show more focus. Has the physical ability to be a better player than he is. Has played against a lower level of competition.
Overall analysis: Junius Coston is one of the better small school prospects available for the 2005 NFL Draft. Coston arrived at North Carolina A&T in 2001 and saw action at left guard as a true freshman. He saw the majority of his playing time at right tackle as a sophomore and at center as a junior. Coston has the ability to excel as a major college player and may have the ability to become a successful NFL offensive lineman. He has good size and good athletic ability for his size. He runs well and has quick feet. However, Coston will need to do a great deal of work in order to smooth out the rough edges in his game. It doesn’t always appear that Coston is playing as hard as he could, but that may be due to the fact that he is competing against a lower level of competition. It’s unlikely that Coston will step in and be an effective player as a rookie in the NFL, but he is a good developmental prospect. Coston currently carries a mid to late day two grade. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm

Strengths: Has been a dominant player at his level...Great size and strength...Hard worker with the drive to improve...Quick and agile...Versatile. Weaknesses: Low level of competition is a major concern...Lacks experience...Needs a lot of work on his technique...Gets by on his physical tools at the Division I-AA level. Notes: A raw prospect with good tools and potential...One of the top sleepers in this draft. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... oston.html





Greensboro, N.C., - January 14, 2005 - N.C. A&T center Junius Coston has decided to play in the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., on January 29, and withdrew his name from the Villages Gridiron Classic scheduled to be played January 15 in Florida.
1. The game is scheduled for 4 p.m. on the east coast and will be televised by ESPN from Ladd-Peebles Stadium. Hampton kick-return specialist Jerome Mathis will present the MEAC in the Gridiron Classic this Saturday.
“He’s coming up on the biggest moment in his life,’’ offensive lineman coach Chennis Berry said. “Every decision he makes has to put him in the best situation as heads toward the NFL Draft in April. He must do what is more beneficial for his career.”
The Senior Bowl is considered the nation’s most unique college all-star football game and football’s premier pre-draft event. It annually features the country’s best senior collegiate football stars and top NFL draft prospects on teams representing the North and South which are coached by the entire coaching staffs from two National Football League teams.
Senior Bowl practices are also attended by over 700 general managers, head coaches, assistant coaches, scouts and other front office personnel from the 32 National Football League teams, making the Senior Bowl the week-long host to a one-of-a-kind NFL Coaches Convention. It was those features Coston did not want to risk forfeiting by wearing down his body in another all-star game.
“I hope people understand what an honor it is for someone from our school to be selected to play in this game,’’ Berry said. “Junius is a hard work and someone the university can be proud of. “
Coston played every position along the Aggies offensive line during his four-year career, was a four-year starter and is considered a sleeper pick in the 2005 NFL Draft by many publications. Sleeper picks are generally mid-to-late round picks that eventually become NFL starters.
Scott Wright of nfldraftcountdown.com, has Coston rated No. 9 among centers in the draft. Coston is a 6-foot-3, 305-pound Raleigh native. Under his leadership over the past four seasons, the Aggies rushing attack averaged 4.5 yards per carry.
He led the team in pancake blocks three consecutive seasons and consistently graded out at 90 percent or higher once coaches watched the game film. He finished his career by making 41 consecutive starts as an Aggie. http://www.ncat.edu/~athletic/Football/football.htm

9. Joe Vaughn Kansas RD6-FA
2. (6-1, 285, estimated 5.38 40 time)
Positives: Possesses pretty good athletic ability. Runs better than his 40-time would indicate and has good agility. Has good leadership skills.
Negatives: Lack of size really hurts him, is short and has short arms. Allows blockers to get to his body too frequently. Has limited upside potential as a pass-blocker.
Overall analysis: Joe Vaughn is a real hard-nosed player who has a chance to make it in the NFL as a backup. Vaughn was a top junior college player prior to arriving at Kansas. He originally played at Northeast Oklahoma A&M where he was an NJCAA second team All-American following his sophomore season. Vaughn arrived at Kansas in 2003, moved into the starting lineup at center, and was named the Big 12 offensive newcomer of the year by the conference coaches. Vaughn has pretty good athletic ability for a center. He runs fairly well and has good quickness and agility. He also possesses good leadership ability. However, Vaughn’s lack of size really hurts him. He is short and has short arms, and will allow blockers to get into his body too often. Vaughn may have the skills to play in the NFL, but his lack of upside potential will prevent him from being anything more than a later round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft.

10. Drew Hodgdon/Arizona State FA
(6-3, 287, estimated 5.13 40 time)
Positives: Is very strong for his size. Is a smart player who knows how to play the game of football. A real battler who gives it everything he’s got.
Negatives: A pumped up player who lacks natural size. Only has average athletic ability. Will get pushed around by bigger, more physical defensive linemen.
Overall analysis: Drew Hodgdon is a good college player who may or may not have what it takes physically to be a good NFL player. Hodgdon redshirted in 2000 and played in 10 games during his redshirt freshman season. He started at right guard as a sophomore and moved inside and played center as a junior. Hodgdon was a weightlifting champion in high school and is very strong for his size. He is also a very intelligent football player who gives it his all on every play. However, Hodgdon is only an average athlete. He also lacks natural size, and despite the fact that he’s strong, Hodgdon will get pushed around by bigger defenders. Overall Hodgdon has some attractive qualities, but he’ll probably need to over-achieve if he’s going to be successful as a professional player. http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm


11. Eric Ghiaciuc Central Michigan 6-3 294 4.98 6.
1. Strengths: Has good size and the frame to add some weight...Has long arms...Athletic, mobile and moves well...Very smart and has what it takes mentally to make it...Still improving and has a lot of potential.
Weaknesses: Needs to hit the weight room and get bigger and stronger...Is inconsistent and needs to work on his technique...Plays too tall...Is not very powerful and won't jolt defenders.
Notes: Raw prospect who needs to be developed physically but has some tools...Prospect with a lot of upside who could end up being a steal for someone if he can put some more meat on his bones.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... aciuc.html

http://cmuchippewas.collegesports.com/s ... 04aac.html
Eric Ghiaciuc, starting center for Central Michigan University's football team, values hard work.
"I represent myself in work ethic," said Ghiaciuc. "In college you have to work hard. It will pay off eventually. You just don't know when or where."
Ghiaciuc credits his father for giving him this trait, and he sees him as a role model. His dad isn't his only role model, however.
"I try to take different qualities from different players on the team," said Ghiaciuc, a 6-3, 294-pounder.
Ghiaciuc started football in the seventh grade. He had to wait because he was too big to play peewee.
After playing in junior high, Ghiaciuc decided to play in high school at Oxford High.
He played on the freshman team his first year and then on varsity from sophomore year until he graduated. He was the team's tight end.



While at Oxford High he was an all-state lineman, all-league, all-country, all-metro, all-state, and ranked number 43 by the Detroit Free Press and number 37 by the Detroit News.
But Ghiaciuc's athletic abilities didn't stop at football. He also ran track and wrestled, earning the title of state wrestling champ his senior year.
Ghiaciuc came to CMU for many reasons, the coaches being one of them. He also liked the location because it was close to his family, as well as the atmosphere and the facilities. "Some people take it for granted, but we really have great facilities," said Ghiaciuc.
Ghiaciuc returns for his third season as CMU's starting center. He started all 12 games in 2002 and 2003, but saw limited action in 2001 as a redshirted freshman.
Ghiaciuc is seen as strong, competitive, and consistent, and has done much to help the team this season.
He was positive in adapting to new coach Brian Kelly's style. "It's was tough, but it's encouraging to see it all come together," said Ghiaciuc.
He also feels the team has improved more in 2004. "There's a new belief," said Ghiaciuc. "The team believes in themselves more than in the past. There's a team cohesiveness that wasn't there before."
While at CMU, Ghiaciuc is majoring in industrial education with a minor in physical education. After graduating, he hopes to still play professional football and then get a teaching job at some point.
In the past, Ghiaciuc has been known to volunteer with preschool children that have diverse backgrounds and disabilities, mostly special education students.
He credits his family as having contributed to his success.
"My family is my support system," he said. "My mom hasn't missed a game this season. My dad makes it to as many as he can." Ghiaciuc also has two older siblings, Bryan 27, and Kelly 25.
For fun, he likes to fish, hunt, and hang out with the guys on the team and barbecue.
When leaving CMU, Ghiaciuc feels he will miss his teammates the most because they are so much fun to hang out with. He has learned many valuable lessons from them such as to "not take life so seriously because if you do, you are going to be tense, " said Ghiaciuc. He suggests you relax and "let things roll off your back."
Ghiaciuc also said he will miss football itself and suiting up on Saturday's. He says it means more than people think.
"It's a big part of my life, and will be hard to give up," said Ghiaciuc.
He feels the best part of football is winning, and the worst is losing. "You either win or you lose," said Ghiaciuc. "There's no in between."
Ghiaciuc offers this advice for future Chippewa football players: "Don't wait around for other people to make it happen. Take it upon yourself to get better and win. You are never too young to help the team out."

12. Chase Johnson 6-3, 305 Texas Christian FA

http://www.thapack.com/draft_2004_initial_center.htm
Chase Johnson/Texas Christian University
1. (6-3, 302, estimated 5.37 40 time)
Positives: Keeps his pads down and has good functional football strength. Is a real scrapper who will give the team everything he has. Is a better player than his skills would indicate.
Negatives: Lacks great size and will likely be limited to playing center at the next level. Is only an average athlete. Lacks top quickness and agility.
Overall analysis: Chase Johnson doesn’t have the greatest physical ability, but he’s a pretty good player who has a chance to make it as a backup in the NFL. Johnson redshirted during the 2000 season. He served as a backup in 2001 and moved into the starting lineup prior to the 2002 season. Johnson missed one game in 2002 due to an ankle injury, and missed the team’s bowl game after the 2003 season due to a suspension (missed curfew). Johnson lacks the ideal size and athletic ability of an NFL player. However, he has some intangible qualities that could land him on an NFL roster. He has pretty good functional football strength and he is a real battler in the trenches. Johnson has a chance to be drafted late, but it’s more likely he’ll have to earn a roster spot through the undrafted free agent route.

http://gofrogs.collegesports.com/sports ... -body.html
1. Frogs Put Three Players Into Hula Bowl
Three TCU Horned Frog football players will participate in the 2005 Hula Bowl, slated for Saturday, January 22. Kickoff is set for 6 p.m. Central time at War Memorial Stadium in Maui and will be televised by ESPN. Representing TCU on the West All-Star squad are wide receiver Reggie Harrell, center Chase Johnson and linebacker Martin Patterson.

13. Marc Manfredda California-Davis FA
(6-2, 302, estimated 5.29 40 time)
Positives: Is athletic and possesses good quickness. A well-rounded player who seems to do everything well. Is an intelligent football player.
Negatives: Lacks great size and strength. Can get knocked off balance. Has played against a low level of competition.
Overall analysis: Marc Manfredda is a very good small school prospect who has an outside chance of being a later round selection in the 2005 NFL Draft. Manfredda redshirted in 2000, and earned a starting guard position as a redshirt freshman in 2001. He also competed at a guard position in 2002 before moving to center in 2003. Manfredda is a well-rounded player who possesses good overall athletic ability. He has good quickness and looks fluid on the football field. However, Manfredda lacks great size and strength. And while he’s a fundamentally sound player, he has a tendency to lose his balance. And of course, you always have to worry about how well a small school player will make the transition to the professional ranks. Manfredda may or may not be selected in the 2005 NFL Draft, but he certainly has enough skill to be invited to an NFL team’s training camp.

14. Geoff Hangartner 6' 5" 303 Texas A and M FA

Strengths: Has good size and a large frame with the potential to get bigger still...Is very strong, tough and physical...Plays hard and always gives 100%...Versatile and has experience at center, guard and tackle...Got better with each season and is still improving. Weaknesses: Isn't a great natural athlete...Doesn't move real well in space...Needs to work on refining his technique and focus on one position...There may be some questions about his character off the field. Notes: Experienced player who came through with an excellent senior campaign...Has some tools to work with and could be one of the top handful of centers drafted...Could possbily project to tackle. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/player ... rtner.html

15. Jason Glynn… Texas… 6-2/275/5.3 FA
One of the least known players on Texas’ offensive line, Glynn is an experienced and consistent pivot man. He is aware on the field and uses his size and strength to his advantage. Unfortunately, his speed is a weakness and will kill him on draft day, but he is not a player to overlook. http://www.nfldraftworld.com/05op.htm

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"I feel like I'm really ready. I feel like everyone else is really ready. Just for the fact that we have something to prove because everyone says that we backdoored our way in. We all want to prove that we deserve to be there."
What have you been doing the last few weeks? What's going on now?
"The last couple of weeks I've been working out, lifting and studying, and now that school's out, we have practice in the morning and have the afternoons off, so I've been relaxing a little bit."
Has all of this truly sunk in yet?
"It hasn't sunk in completely and it won't. Not as long as there's practice, you feel like you're still in it. Probably on game day when it's over, it will all sink in."
How proud are you to have accomplished what no other Texas team has before?
"I'm excited because it's probably the best way you could go out as a senior, at the Rose Bowl. The opportunity to get a Big 12 team in the Rose Bowl doesn't happen very often, it's pretty neat."
What's the first thing you are looking forward to doing in L.A?
"I think our hotel is near the Walk of Fame. I'd like to go check that out."
Are you a beach guy?
"Yeah, I like the beach but I probably won't be there. I'm not in my beach shape yet."
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I don't think there is a dream draft scenario with this year's crop. Although Williams is big, he isn't particularly fast and Edwards scares me simply because he is from Michigan. Name the last successful wr from Ann Arbor. I agree with adding a wr in free agency, possibly muhammad. A center is a definite need, and I'm not sold on Dockery. I'd trade Samuels in a heartbeat if you could get something decent for him. Gardner won't bring too much in a trade considering it's no secret he's not wanted here. If it's feasible, I'd trade down, take Pollack, he seems like a Gibbs guy, smaller than Dave Butz, but possibly in the same mold (good character). Package whatever Gardner and McCants bring and pray for a 2nd round pick. There I would look for Wilkerson. Also, why does Smoot want to leave so bad? It sounds like Chump has been poisoning his mind.
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If we're able to get Mike Williams and David Baas in the same draft, it would be the best draft in Skins history... IMHO.
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I'm with Scooter on this one
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Scooter wrote:If we're able to get Mike Williams and David Baas in the same draft, it would be the best draft in Skins history... IMHO.
Baas, Rolle and Williams would be the BEST draft.
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Redskin in Canada wrote:
Scooter wrote:If we're able to get Mike Williams and David Baas in the same draft, it would be the best draft in Skins history... IMHO.
Baas, Rolle and Williams would be the BEST draft.


Are you being sarcastic? Because I can't tell and if you're serious how the HELL are we supposed to get Rolle AND Williams in the same draft?
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Redskins4Life wrote:Are you being sarcastic? Because I can't tell and if you're serious how the HELL are we supposed to get Rolle AND Williams in the same draft?

Easy, it is a mock draft...

I agree that it would be difficult and that we all could dratft a long list of players for a "dream" draft. But follow me for a second:

What if, and it is a long shot, somebody wanted a player from us that would land us a 1st round pick? Or

What if, and this is a longer shot, we trade our 2006 number 1 pick for one now?

Possible? Yes. Unlikely? Very much so. Still, it is a mock wishlist. Do not take it very seriously. But you never know...
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Remember how Smoot fell to us? There was a bogus marijuanna story a week before the draft - Smoot fell into the second round. So... I heard that Rolle likes Elton John and kicks puppies... and eats salted ants... and once dated Carmen Electra :0)
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