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Chargers aren't ready to deal Rivers

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GM dismisses Rivers trade talk
By Jim Trotter
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
December 10, 2004

Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith yesterday quashed speculation he will try to trade rookie quarterback Philip Rivers and his $40.5 million contract before March 10, when Rivers is scheduled to receive a $6.6 million option bonus.

"Those rumors are false," Smith said. "Normally we don't discuss our football business, but when it becomes obvious that something is as absurd as that, I'll respond to it."

The rumors could have been wishful thinking on the part of general managers in need of a front-line quarterback. Because starter Drew Brees has played so well and is to become an unrestricted free agent after the season, there was chatter around the league that the Chargers might try to sign him to a long-term contract, then trade Rivers before March 10 to get out from under his contract and avoid paying the option bonus.

Three problems: The organization would like to see Brees play at an elite level for more than one year before considering a long-term deal; the club remains strong in its belief that Rivers will be a special quarterback, and dealing him before next season would leave the Chargers without immediate and long-term protection at the position should Brees struggle; and the organization would take a salary-cap hit of nearly $6.5 million in 2005 if it traded Rivers before March 10. The hit climbs above $10 million if a deal is made next year after the 10th.


Bucs GM unsurprised

Others might be surprised by the success the 9-3 Chargers are having, but Tampa Bay General Manager Bruce Allen isn't one of them.
"I'm surprised that others are surprised," he said. "(Smith) is very good at what he does and, obviously, he takes everything he does very seriously."

Allen and Smith are longtime friends, dating to their time together with the USFL's Chicago Blitz in the early 1980s. Smith said it's coincidence that two of the players who have had a big impact on the Chargers this season – left tackle Roman Oben and wideout Keenan McCardell – were acquired in trades with Allen.

"When you do a trade, that doesn't mean anything," Smith said of his friendship. "You're trying to do what's best for your team. But I do like dealing with somebody I'm friends with; it made it a little more enjoyable . . . But it's about business."

Smith, who is in the running for NFL Executive of the Year, said Allen was one of his biggest boosters even before he got the job with the Chargers.

"He used to say to me all the time that I was the best-kept secret in the NFL," Smith said.


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Chargers wives will hold their 14th annual "Toys for Tots" drive Sunday. Fans are asked to bring a new, unwrapped toy to the game . . . Jesse Chatman (toe), Sammy Davis (leg), Tim Dwight (foot) and Hanik Milligan (hamstring) did not practice.


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That sucks. I wish we could get him.
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Brandon777 wrote:That sucks. I wish we could get him.
your joking right ???? he is unproven and it is only one year .... he is having a good year but i still would NOT want him on this team ....maybe if he puts two three good years together then i might have a change of heart.
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Brandon777 wrote:That sucks. I wish we could get him.

B777 is talking about Rivers
redskinz4ever wrote:your joking right ???? he is unproven and it is only one year .... he is having a good year but i still would NOT want him on this team ....maybe if he puts two three good years together then i might have a change of heart.

RS4E is talking about Brees

The Chargers will keep them both if the are smart
Rivers hasn't played a down and Brees may have just been playing for a contract.


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I'm talking about Rivers :wink: . I followed his career at NC State. He's a great talent. I hate seeing it go to waste on a bench.
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Brandon777 wrote:I'm talking about Rivers :wink: . I followed his career at NC State. He's a great talent. I hate seeing it go to waste on a bench.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you in the "keep Ramsey on the bench so he can learn by watching Brunell stink up the joint" camp?
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Brandon777 wrote:I'm talking about Rivers :wink: . I followed his career at NC State. He's a great talent. I hate seeing it go to waste on a bench.

And we all followed Eli Manning did we not? Alot of good his Ole Miss Career has done him
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Get Rivers? A guy who has absolutely no experience... and you think we should get him based on his career at NC.... ROTFALMAO


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BossHog wrote:My credibility meter is going bananas...


Mmmmm... bananas.

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cvillehog wrote:
Brandon777 wrote:I'm talking about Rivers :wink: . I followed his career at NC State. He's a great talent. I hate seeing it go to waste on a bench.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you in the "keep Ramsey on the bench so he can learn by watching Brunell stink up the joint" camp?
At the beginning I was. How was I suppose to know Brunell was going to have the worst year of his career? I've always liked Rivers.
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BossHog wrote:Get Rivers? A guy who has absolutely no experience... and you think we should get him based on his career at NC.... ROTFALMAO


My credibility meter is going bananas...
Wow. Did I say something that funny? Were you this amused when we drafted Ramsey from Tulane. He didn't have NFL experience. If I'm not mistaken, Tulane was on the verge of closing down their football program.

Well anyways, every QB has to start at the beginning as far as NFL experience goes. Brunell has a ton of experience but look what happened. Then look at Big Ben. Rivers was a very accurate passer, managed the games well, made smart decisions, and could read defenses very well. Yeah, this all happened in college but I'm sure that at least some of it would carry over to the NFL. If I'm not mistaken, he beat McNabb's record in college for the most consecutive starts, so that means he's durable.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Chargers won't be trading him anytime soon and it's up to Gibbs on who he wants to get next year. If he feels we need a QB then he'll get one. If he doesn't he won't. I don't think Gibbs comes here and listens to us on what he should do. Then again, he seemed to listen to the booing at Fed Ex when he decided to bench Brunell. I just hope Rivers doesn't end up in Dallas.
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