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Your draft board at #5

Postby Prowl33 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:13 am

So pretty much any player could be available at 5. What do your top 4 look like, and with your 5th option put your pick if we trade back to any spot.

1) Leonard Williams
2) Dante Fowler
3) Randy Gregory
4) Kevin White
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Deadskins » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:57 am

So neither QB goes 1-4? Not very likely.

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby riggofan » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:12 pm

My board probably looks like this:

1. DT Leonard Williams
2. QB Jameis Winston
3. OLB Vic Beasley
4. WR Amari Cooper
5. DE Dante Fowler

If we trade later in the first I'm assuming those guys are gone and my board would be:

1. OT La'el Collins
2. DT Danny Shelton
3. OT Brandon Scherff
4. S Landon Collins
5. WR Kevin White

Fun exercise btw. There's not a player in there that I wouldn't be happy to see the team draft. Although drafting Jameis Winston would be a FREAKING CIRCUS.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby DarthMonk » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:56 pm

Why not ...

1 Winston QB
2 Gurley RB
3 Williams DL
4 White WR
5 Flowers OL/Shelton NT


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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Irn-Bru » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:56 pm

(1) Leonard Williams
(2) Amari Cooper
(3) Vic Beasley
(4) Jameis Winston
(5) Dante Fowler

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Prowl33 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:38 pm

Interesting seeing cooper so high and winston on some of these lists. Not that I disagree, just interesting to see. First draft in a LONG time we have no clue who we will take in the 1st

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Yeah no way in the world Winston and Williams fall to #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby DarthMonk » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:57 am

^^ I know what you mean. Dude can do it all, though. A big Forte.


In recent times, the ones who would've been worthy are maybe who?

AP?


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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby yupchagee » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:21 am

Winston is too risky given his off field issues. Same with Gregory. We cannot afford to miss with this pick. I don't think there is an OL worth a top 5 in this class.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby UK Skins Fan » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:11 am

Oh, ok then, I'll add my opinion. My personal Redskins board would be:

1) Williams
2) Fowler
3) Beasley
4) Cooper

After a trade down, I'd be happy with Scherff or Ereck Flowers.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby DarthMonk » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:18 pm

I thought more about the risk factor and now have this as my top 5:

1 Kevin White WR
2 Ereck Flowers OL
3 Danny Shelton NT
4 Malcom Brown DT
5 Who cares?

Trade back and get two or three of these guys. They would all start for us for years.


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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:56 am

Im hoping we can flip our pick into two first rounders via the brown stains (or similar) and acquire the top remaining OL lets say Flowers and land Collins... pipe dream I know, but thats what this is for right?

OR if we stay put-
1. Williams
2. White
3. Cooper
4. Shelton
5. Beasley

Not a fan of Winston (at all!) so if he IS available, although doubtful, Im HIGHLY in favor of trading back and getting as much picks for him as possible.. With that said I see Oakland taking either White or Cooper, and both qbs long gone, so we take the remaining of the two top WRs or go for the best available DL- doubful that Williams makes it past the Jags but possible I suppose.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:00 am

*With Oakland signing Crabtree their board may have changed actually... in which case we take the highest reciever on our board between Cooper and White!
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby sch1977 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:24 pm

I really think Vic Beasley is going to be a beast as a pass rusher. If we stay at #5, that's where I'd go.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby SkinsJock » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:52 am

with under 2 weeks to go I'm still holding out hope that this FO will stick by the BPA route - I understand draft gurus looking at areas of need and making their predictions for each franchise accordingly - I just hope that these guys pick the best player they have rated on their sheets regardless of what position he plays and I also hope they try and get as many picks as possible in this and the next draft

this franchise may rebound quickly but the long term solution is to focus on the draft and bring in free agents as a short term plan

we really need to be patient and build a good offensive line and a defense that can be a lot more effective especially on third downs

we also have 2 seasons to get a QB that can help the offense in 2017 - if he's not the long term solution at QB at least be able to help the offense while the long term solution is getting ready
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Irn-Bru » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:27 pm

In my opinion, here are the worst case scenarios for us.

Scenario 1
(1) TB - Winston
(2) Ten - Mariota
(3) Jax - Williams
(4) Oak - Cooper

I don't like this because we can't grab either Williams or Cooper and Mariota is off the board and therefore we're much less likely to fetch a trade. In this situation, I'd say draft Beasley. I'd actually be pretty happy with this result, but it does seem like our options are somewhat limited.

Scenario 2
(1) TB - Winston
(2) Ten - Williams
(3) Jax - Beasley
(4) Oak - Cooper
(5) No one makes a substantial offer to trade for this pick

I don't like this because picks 2-4 above are the top three on my board. Do we pick Fowler here? Gregory? Perhaps even White at WR? I'm not really a fan of any of these at 5, myself. Tough call.

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Countertrey » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:21 pm

I really don't think there's a concern here.. Unless McGloughan has a serious case of the brain farts, we will get a win here, one way or another. This isn't Mike Ditka doing our drafting.
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby SkinsJock » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:50 am

I agree Prowl - I am just hopeful that unlike previous years this FO is looking at 2 and 3 years ahead rather than doing and paying whatever it takes to be the best in the NFC East this coming season like we have been doing here - that is just STUPID

I'm all in on seeing this franchise be decent again but I'm also tired of being disappointed because the guys in charge have ZERO knowledge of what it takes to put a TEAM together - there's been no plan

Scot IMO has a plan and hopefully Snyder gives him the 2 or 3 years it will take to finally have an O line and a defense that can get off the field when it's 3rd and long - we have not had either of those for a long time here


I'd love for this team to play "meaningful" games in December but everyone can do that - winning 5 of your first 12 most likely means you "could" make the playoffs - the important thing is to be there year in and year out not every now and then - I'm looking for improvement in both play and coaching - the wins and losses will come with that and maybe even as early as 2017, we can realistically expect to be contending for a playoff spot
if we get there this season, it's not because we're suddenly good, it's going to be that we got lucky like we did in 2012
we need to be there each year not at 10-6 one year and 6-10 the next
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Re: Your draft board at #5

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Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
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Re: Your draft board at #5

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when a team is good they continue to be good - if they have a off season they find a way to be competitive pretty darn quick

the 2012 Redskins were more lucky than good and they proved it the following 2 years

I'm tired of waiting to get lucky, which is what a Snyder managed franchise gives you

Scot will show us what it's like to have a franchise that has a plan for success and while a little luck is important, having a plan and placing more attention on the draft will mean that we don't have up and down years like has been going on here since 1999
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby OldSchool » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:36 pm

Skins have so many needs that I hope they get an opportunity trade down for multiple picks. If they decide to select someone with the #5 pick I hope they don't take chances with a guy that got in trouble in college like Gregory. I saw a few Nebraska games and he was a difference maker not quite as much as Watt at Wisconsin but very impactful because the offense I'd to plan around him.

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Bishop Hammer » Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:43 pm

1) Vic Beasley
2) Leanord Williams
3) Amari Cooper
4) Dante Fowler
If trade Back
5) Brandon Schreff
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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby DarthMonk » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:47 pm



Scalp 'em, Swamp 'em,
We will take 'em big score!
Read 'em, Weep 'em Touchdown,
We want heap more!

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby Irn-Bru » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:34 pm

I find that surprising. Nothing against Gurley (and good call on that one, DM), but it's a little like hearing Scot had a TE or MLB at the very top of his board. Not inconceivable, but typically you've got better players at other positions in the mix. RBs are kinda fungible and only rarely the kind of athlete that demands high first-round attention.

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Re: Your draft board at #5

Postby DarthMonk » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:08 am



Scalp 'em, Swamp 'em,
We will take 'em big score!
Read 'em, Weep 'em Touchdown,
We want heap more!

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