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2019 NFL DRAFT

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“He was at that time the smartest player in the league. We did everything we could to try to eliminate him from the play. We knew if we didn’t neutralize him, then we had less of a chance of winning.” - John Hannah on Chris Hanburger

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Thanks, I was only after the highlights.

The EU brought in some data protection laws last year, which (some?) sites either need to comply with, or block access. I've found a few regional papers in the US block access

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Which part? The "Haskins making some pro-bowl caliber throws"?

Or Keenum getting "coached on short rb tosses"?[/quote]


with another Moreland interception, his third, and a 100-yard celebration by the defense as he trotted towards the other end zone.

"He's aggravating," said quarterback Dwayne Haskins, who offered up the interception. "I'm glad he's on our team."

Haskins and fellow quarterback [b]Case Keenum [/b]struggled to get any kind of momentum going,




I really should check in here more often. The part after Haskins offering up the interception for a pick 6 part. :o The part where Moreland is on our team!!

Which means maybe we should cut Norman and pay Trent Williams what he wants. Because our QBs need all the help they can get. GET WELL COLT!!!

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Postby riggofan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:37 pm

Man, that's a tough one. My gut says "You gotta pay Trent", but my mind says you'd better lock up the younger Scherff first.

I don't buy into this Trent can't keep himself on the field stuff either. That dude is a warrior who has been playing through injuries for years. The marijuana stuff was three years ago.

Regardless, Trent Williams contract drama isn't really what we need right now.
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Postby ferryrich » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:35 pm

He's already in the top (6?) averages. I'm all for adding extra years on with a bit of a bump, but he should be happy on what he's on for this year at least.
He might just want it for some longer term security considering his health, both on field and off

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“He was at that time the smartest player in the league. We did everything we could to try to eliminate him from the play. We knew if we didn’t neutralize him, then we had less of a chance of winning.” - John Hannah on Chris Hanburger

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Postby Sonny9TD » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:44 pm

Which is why I say we cut Norman and put Moreland or Moreau in. Take the money and pay Sherff and Williams and me as GM and let the good times roll. =D> :shock: :P

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

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Good reply.

Just off base. You cant put words into my mouth man, that isnt a conversation. I've never said a Rookie qb with ONE year starting in the ncaa is going to come in and not face any adversity or growing pains. I never even said he was a day one starter, or that he is the best qb in the room.

That said, I HAVE said that Keenum isn't that great of a qb and isnt a dat one lock either... And that both qbs will be learning the new system at the same time. So, lets see who shines before we just sit him behind a guy who is on his 3rd team in as many years. Seems like common sense to me?

Colt McCoy is NOTHING special man.. He is an aging career backup who broke his leg in his chance last year. Nothing against the guy, that one time years back when he beat Dullass... That was cool! I feel just as confident with Keenum and Haskins as I did last year with Smith and Colt . We cant cut Smith, but we dont need 4 qbs on pay roll. If it comes down to needing three we are screwed, just like last year. So ya, cut Colt now so he can land elsewhere and Smith can still help with x's and o's in a boot.

Moreland intercepted both qbs by the way- why are you spinning this wierd Haskins hate wheel? One of them was a tipped pass... Good for Mooreland! Doesn't magically make him a pro bowler man. You'd rather put Dunny on the number 1 wr and insert Moreland? Ok... How many games did Dunny play last year? Year before? Rigggght...

Norman isnt the best cb in the league... He is OUR best cb. Has had multiple turnovers every year, and with a better back field maybe we see the ROI you speak of. Or matbe we can restructure... But we dont have the luxury to just cut our best cb. It would leave a glaring whole on a pretty stout Defense. Why would we?
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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:01 pm

I really have to add... You are 1 comparing 2 different positions qb vs db... But also- Dwayne was a top pick in the first round! Yes my expectatuons to see him on the field year one are higher then that of a 7th round flyer.

I actually HOPE Haskins can learn behind Keenum all year en route to a SuperBowl.. Just dont think thats super realistic- and want him to be the clear cut better option.

So far its a wash. Keenum is more consistent, as a what 8 year vet? Should be... And Haskins has the highlight reel throws each day.

Moreland hasn't been mentioned all week
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Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Lol you crack me up

Haskins is the most talented qb on roster.

Keenum will start most likely due to his experience making the new O easier to learn and more consistent on field. We have a poll man, most agreed he'd start at some point after game 6 or what ever... I just told you I hope we have the Mohmes luxury of waiting- we shall see.

Mooreland isn't even top 3 cb man, sorry. He has ball hawking skills but also has been burnt. He is playing mainly with the 2s and 3s and not in pads. I have as much hope as you that he is a pro bowler- just temper my expectations in June where the qbs have a *sh$t* oline and are having to gid rid of the ball early since our dline is savage af.. That helps all the dbs, but good for him. When pads are on, then we can judge better is alls im saying. We can bet money once we see how these guys perform when isht is real lol
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Fwiw I do read all the articles that have you oh so loving Mooreland, I read every "Redskins news" update every day really. I get the high esteem for the kid... And Id love for gim to be better then JNo and save us soke money man I would... Just sayin that June is June.

I also said fighting for 'slot duties' not lucky to make the practice squad. At this point he is shining if he keeps it going I could see him challenging Adonis Stroland etc for back up role and some slot action. Dunny and Jno are cleary betger then him.

Very much so like Haskins... If this kids raw talent out shines all, but he lacks some consistency- do we start them out the gate and deal with the misques since the glaring talent will help make up for it?? Real question
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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby ferryrich » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:56 pm

"making waves" is just exceeding expectations.
Easier for a late pick to make waves.
I'm more impressed by Sweat being 2 in that list

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Postby Sonny9TD » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:07 pm

I'll bet a dollar Moreland is better than Norman right now. Hell Ii'll make it a buck fifty. Watch out there goes Moreland with another pick 6

Don't know if I ever said this but here goes.. Sonny Jurgensen is the best damn QB ever. Ever! G@$ Da*#^ !!!

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Jimmy had a pick to end vet mini camp, his second... It was a good ball and catch by Cam Simms and a should be TD.. But the fiesty Moreland ripped it out of his hands for the pick/ strip. Called a pick but it was close.

In perspective that means with that one and the one he caught off a tip totals 5... Though, 3 came in one day at rookie mini camp.

JNo? Had at least 3 that I read about... Ending camp with a pick six of his own. Some referee speculation if he stepped out or not but clearly a great play where he jumped the route.

Also video evidence that JNo was the last player on the field on a few occasions working on foot work drills. I like that.

This guy gets a bad rap- mainly due to the price tag but also all the penalties.. Alot of tvose were pretty damn weak IMO, but he does need to play smarter at times.
*** I for one LOVE me some Norman!! He has great cover skills, is fiesty af, gets into the minds of wideouts, doesnt quit (LATE in the play strip fumbles made), speaks his mind, is well spoken, a vocal leader, and a team player.

Anyone remember him causing ODB to lose his marbles??? Kicking the kicking net that fell and hit him im the face??! Shutting down Dez???
Im excited AF to see him with Collins in the back field!!!
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Sherman is 6'3 and was drafted in the 5th.. I never said gems canr be found late- ie TB12 the GOAT. The Pats was just an example of a team that could use a cb and drafts well. We arent known for great drafting- although the last few years have been pretty damn good imo.

My point was that you are turning an ant hill into a mountain. He had a good camp.. And a great day of camp. But there are also variables we dont know- like work ethic. Can he work his azz off and become JNos successor?? Absolutely!
Is he going to do it year one? Doubtful. Very.
All rooks have a learning curve. None of the guys you mentioned were year one probowlers, not even TB12!

Cut Norman? Nah fam
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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:38 pm

Its not a love affair thing man.. I, like you, just want to WIN BABY!!
I want the best players on the field to give us the best chance to win week in and week out. Mooreland hasnt been pwning Haskins by any stretch- as he has intercepted all 3 qbs right? Im just stressing its June... Last year Keenum didnt throw an INT all summer, big whoop right? Now, inbthis new system, the qbs are facing a FIERCE Defense and it has shown. Protection is crap and tining is off. Is Haskims ready? Not yet. But he has shown glimpses- its a gresr comparrison to Mooreland.. Showing promise.

Its not my guy vs your guy... Everyone one of these guys that elevate thier play to make the roster are OUR guys- ya know?

Im rooting for both
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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:50 am

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/6/11/186 ... ining-camp


Im excited for this D... Not just Dwayne Haskins, but the Defense should be a problem this year, in a good way! Keenum went all summer without throwing a pick here in CO for Denver last year- not the Case this year! LMAO saw mention of pick 6 and another int...

No mention of Moreland returning punts which I find strange... Has hands, vision, wheels... And if he is low on the depth chart youd want him to add to his resume with special teams. I expect to see him back there in camp tho.

Some tidbits from camp... Haskins is putting in work- last one off the field... Staying at Redskins park most the time between now and camp... Get the feeling he is doing everything he can to make the most of his opportunity, I dig that. Apke and Everett getting praise.. Sweat apparently covers half the field in two strides lol... Silly stuff but its all we get until camp
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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby Sonny9TD » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:33 am

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/re ... projection

Team looking good except at one area. Tackle. One injury or holdout this offense struggles at best. We have no Tackles that can back up injury prone group we have now. There isn't even one player who comes close to Moses or Trent. I have a feeling this weakness will bite this team like a Taipan snake before half the season is gone and then any sense of a working offense goes out the window. It's a huge deal and could take a pretty good team we have now and send it spiraling to the worst of teams if either Moses or Trent can not get on the field. It will be night and day when it happens and i seriously think it is going to happen.

They better pick up some competent tackles at some point even it means giving up a draft pick. Just imagine Haskins right now without Trent or Moses blocking for him trying to get off a pass or not get sacked. I shudder the visual and the bad decisions that stem from that. Haskins is doomed the instant this happens un less the team finds somebody capable. In fact Haskins needs to sweet talk Trent about that bump on his head that was benign right now. :lol: Every other position we have pretty good depth or capable players but at Tackle we have zero depth. Nada

Note to Trent: If you're worried about some possible serious health issue go see a real doctor that specializes in these things and leave the sports training staff out of the situation totally and completely. Einstein

Erick Flowers and Geron Christian suck popsicles. Geron a 3rd round pick. Probably 30 other tackles better than him at the time. There isn't a team that will give you a 5th for him right now if he was healthy. Amazing how bad this team can waste a rather high draft pick on a player that should go undrafted or the late 6th or 7th

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby Burgundy&GoldForever » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:32 am

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby Burgundy&GoldForever » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:17 pm

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby Burgundy&GoldForever » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:03 pm

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby Sonny9TD » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:44 pm

Martin will start at LG. Tackle is the problem when one of them gets hurt. There are no other Tackles.

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:38 pm

Couldn't he just lay down?? And add a chip block from the rb... Should be about where we were before Trent
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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby ferryrich » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:37 pm

Wasn't Chris Samuels before Trent? I know he missed some games at the end with that neck problem, but I thought Trent came in the following draft

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Re: 2019 NFL DRAFT

Postby cowboykillerzRGiii » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:37 pm

Could be right... I just recall dreaded oline play for a long time
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