Possible QB options for 2019?

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:57 am

Cardinals offer 2nd round pick for Rosem. Washington needs to jump all over this. Come on Bruce get your head out of your azz. Give them a 2nd and a 7th this year and next year and bring him in. Do It !!!!!!!! :shock:

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:32 am

by **riggofan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:36 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:53 am

by **riggofan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:22 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:33 am

by **riggofan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:54 am

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:12 am

Rosen is better than all these guys except maybe Murray. Arizona's line was worse than ours after all the injuries. Rosen is the most accurate of them all. He was balling at UCLA. He needs time in the pocket period. If Washington drafts a QB in the first round instead of getting Rosen they are just stupid. Rosen has played when it is as bad as it can be in the NFL. Think about what he could do with an above average line that would afford him to play action with a good running game as well as have time to throw. Josh Rosen is a bit arrogant but he can ball. That pick at 15 has Rosen's name all over it. Deb Sweeney in the 2nd to give him someone to throw to and a guard in the 3rd and this offense is ready to score.

He is the perfect answer to paying too much for Alex Smith and still get a very good QB after what has happened with both too much money they paid for a QB with a broke leg. Rosen gets us out of a pickle with one draft pick. She worth a number one pick. For the place the Redskins are in between a rock and hard place as far as QB is concerned?

Hell yes!

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:47 am

by **riggofan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:48 pm

by **riggofan** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:59 pm

by **aswas71788** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:38 pm

Outside of RGIII, I don't remember many rookie quarterbacks that had a better than a somewhat good first year. There were some but most did decidedly better their second or third year. Goff and Mahomes are prime examples of that. Goff had a bad first year and Mahomes sat the first year. I am all for the Redskins trading for Rosen as long as it does not include the 1st round pick.

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:54 pm

by **SkinsJock** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:23 am

if these 2 idiots think they can get a good starting QB through a trade or by way of the draft they will do it

short term or long term, they don't have a good starting QB on the roster and it's priority 1

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:46 am

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:53 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:58 am

by **SkinsJock** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:56 am

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:06 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:23 am

by **SkinsJock** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:50 am

by **ferryrich** » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:42 pm

We know

by **riggofan** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:25 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:29 pm

by **riggofan** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:10 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:26 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:31 am

Kyler Murray is the best thing to happen to the Redskins. This bit of serendipity is a gift from the football gods. He has allowed Josh Rosen to be up for trade or at least i think he has and the Redskins should trade for him no matter how many draft picks it takes. He is worth our 1st round pick hands down. He could do more for this team than any other player in this draft. I would give a 1st round this year and a 3rd next year and ask for a 4th rounder in return for another WR or Offensive Lineman to fill those holes with depth.

Now if we could get him for less great but we should be all in and get someone who can make a huge impact on this offense. He put up almost the same numbers as Jared Goff did last year with the 32nd rated offensive line and the 32nd rated run offense. Get Rosen no matter what and if they don't Bruce and Dan will have failed. This kid is the real deal. Get this offensive line some studsand maulers and get Josh Rosen and let the playoffs begin. What ever the highest bid for Josh Rosen is we should go a little more. Period

Dan I'm still available to be your GM. It will cost you though.

Hail !!!

by **riggofan** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:03 am

Anybody have any thoughts on Daniel Jones from Duke? That's a guy who may be around at 15. I believe he's in for a visit with the Redskins today. And Doug Williams was at his bowl game last year. Dude threw for 423 yards, 5 TDs and 73% completion rate.

6-5. 220 lbs. Coached by David Cutcliffe who also worked with Peyton Manning. Some comparisons to Carson Wentz.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:55 am

by **riggofan** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:56 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:33 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:49 pm

by **riggofan** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:20 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:53 pm

The Washington Redskins are apparently close to closing a deal for Cardinals quarterback Josh Rosen.

According to Benjamin Allbright, the former UCLA star “looks more and more like the pairing, unless someone else steps up their offer.”
(RELATED: Washington Redskins Don’t Expect Alex Smith To Play In 2019)

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:57 am

Someone help me out here. What's the logic in bringing in a Josh Rosen if he's A) going to sit on the bench for a year, or B) going to get coached by a head coach whose contract is up at the end of the season. Bringing Rosen in and benching him would be stupid. It's like wasting a draft pick. You expect 1st or 2nd round picks to contribute immediately. So, I'm not buying the "he'll sit behind Keenum and McCoy for a year" line. But why would you bring in a QB to learn a system that may not be around the following season? Does anyone think Jay Gruden's job is secure beyond next season?

I understood the Keenum move because they gave up virtually nothing, they are paying him virtually nothing, and he's one a one year deal. Rosen's salary this season is dirt cheap because Arizona already paid his signing bonus so I get that part of it. Rosen has game experience. I get that. Rosen has some talent, even if he couldn't demonstrate it in Arizona. I get that. What I don't get is any talk of his being a backup if they trade for him or any talk of how Jay Gruden is going to coach him up. Unless somebody else knows something about Dan Snyder that I don't know he's not going to extend Gruden without results that are impossible to obtain under these circumstances. So, what? Rosen learns his third system in three years when the Redskins bring in Saban or whoever to replace Gruden? How does that help a QB develop?

I'm having one hell of a time understanding the logic here.

by **Sonny9TD** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:01 am

If the Redskins have a hope to get in the playoffs now they need to get Rosen to come in and start day one. Not sure what draft picks we give up but we need a mauler at LG and a dependable WR who can get open and a pass rusher. If we can get those positions with quality players we can make a run for the playoffs. It is going to take those 4 positions ro be players that can come in and make a difference. Lb would be next or part of that list but we are 4 players away from going to the playoffs

If we can't get Rosen i think the next best QB that we could get is Will Grier and maybe we could get him in the 2nd. I don't think he falls to the 3rd. He is Baker Mayfield without as strong an arm

by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:54 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:54 pm

by **El Mexican** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:10 pm

Just for the record, I do believe we are a good QB away from the playoffs.
Last year proved it. A good, not spectacular, QB makes all the difference in this league.
While Alex was healthy he kept us in playoff contention.

It was eerily similar situation when Gus was our QB in 1997. We were doing great.
Then he head-banged the wall and you know the rest...we missed the playoffs after a hot start.

This may sound distasteful, but every player on the field is interchangeable except for your QB.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:04 pm

by **SkinsJock** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:31 am

by **Sonny9TD** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:17 pm

by **SkinsJock** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:43 pm

by **DarthMonk** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:10 pm

If Rosen were in this year's draft he'd be the number 1 overall pick.

He's rated as an immediate starter.

We have one healthy QB.

I say we make a deal for Rosen.

My 2 cents

by **Sonny9TD** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:00 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:08 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:02 pm

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:18 am

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:19 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:43 am

by **Sonny9TD** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:56 am

You have to have a QB who can get these receivers the ball before the receivers get all the blame although they do need better receivers or ones that can stay on the field. Nothing wrong with Crowder. Trey Quinn could even get open.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:30 am

by **Justice Hog** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:20 am

I suggest the Redskins offer Keenum and a 3rd rounder for Rosen. Maybe throw in a 3rd rounder for next year to make it a little more attactive. Still, whatever happens, we need receivers.

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:41 am

by **Sonny9TD** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:10 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:13 am

by **SkinsJock** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:15 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:16 am

by **Sonny9TD** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:49 am

There's the problem. If the Skins trade their second for Rosen they can't use it on a Samuels or anyone else. I guess I should get used to the idea of having Rosen and the receivers on the roster. That doesn't mean I have to like it.

Well i think there are other receivers later in the draft that can be great. Antonio Brown was a 6th rounder but Rosen should be a priority. We just don't have a QB that can make it happen with 2 minutes left in the game on the roster now. He is worth a first rounder if we have to do that but i certainly rather would not. 2nd round this year 3rd next year would be better. We need either Burns or Hockenson badly. Burns would be my pick and get the defense taken care of for this year to make a run. Sure we could use some more help on defense but to win now get an edge rusher now and the focus on offense with all the other picks other than a gem of a linebacker late in the draft.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:11 pm

by **riggofan** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:40 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:19 pm

by **DarthMonk** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:19 am

by **riggofan** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:18 am

That's weird reporting, man. I SWEAR I saw Keim the other day making some non-committal comments on Rosen. Like "I can confidently state that the Redskins will either trade for Rosen or they won't.". lol. That's my only thing about this story is that its not clear to me how much the Redskins are really interested in this vs. the idea being floated/driven by the media.

I think the Giants are in a pretty good position if they want to get a QB with two first round picks. They can get a stud OT or edge player, probably still grab a guy they like with the #17 pick and not have to play him right away. Point being I don't think they have the same urgency to make a deal for Rosen.

I'm hoping the Skins just continue to ride this out until right up to the draft. If nobody else is pressing the Cardinals to make the trade, the price for Rosen should stay reasonable.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:41 am

by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:04 pm

I see the Pats with the 32nd pick making the swap.. Learn behind the goat and be secure at qb for another lifetime

by **Sonny9TD** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:04 pm

Two weeks ahead of the NFL draft, Andy Benoit and Gary Gramling are breaking down the biggest areas of need for all 32 teams.
Redskins

Biggest Need: Quarterback
You hope Alex Smith can play again, but you can’t count on it. And with Case Keenum being a bridge guy, we’ll take this opportunity to once again shout from the mountain tops that WASHINGTON SHOULD TRADE FOR JOSH ROSEN—even if it means giving up their No. 15 overall pick. Besides being a perfect stylistic fit for Jay Gruden’s system, Rosen coming out of UCLA was, on many boards, a higher-rated prospect than any of this year’s QBs. If he were coming out now, the debate would be whether to take him or Kyler Murray; there’s no way would Rosen slip to 15th in this draft. So not only are we talking about a quality QB prospect, but one who is, again, PERFECT FOR JAY GRUDEN’S OFFENSE!

If the Redcskins let Rosen get away because they won't give a 1st round pick for Rosen after they have been given a life line for a potentially super star QB after mucking up Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins for trillions of dollars almost and broken legs and countless other draft picks wasted by this ownership they really will be incompetent.

For HOGS sake get Rosen and a mauler LG and get this offensive line firing on all cylinders with Rosen at QB and watch this offense look brand new and a threat to score at anytime.

The price ( giving a 1st rounder ) for Rosen is a small price to pay for all the wasted picks and foolish decisions this management has made. A life line has been thrown to us. A life line that is very expensive but a life line none the less. If we had drafted just 10% better we would.t be in this mess and could be drafting a stud edge rusher or TE with our 1st pick which would be where we should be at this point but the decisions that have been made has put us in a deep hole and now someone has offered an expensive life line to climb out with. Pay the price if need be and let this be a lesson on decision making. They should offer less of course but be ready to part with that 1st rounder if the Cardinals call our bluff and stand firm. Don't let the Giants get him Bruce / Dan

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:25 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:08 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:38 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:14 pm

"I'm not that sold on Rosen just because he'd be the first QB taken in a weak QB draft year."

I understand what you're saying.. Especially if you don't like Rosen. We can agree to disagree on that.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:01 am

by **riggofan** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:04 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:05 am

by **riggofan** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:22 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:02 am

by **riggofan** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:51 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:56 pm

by **El Mexican** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:51 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:35 pm

After watching tape i have come to a conclusion on which QB we should get. Josh Rosen would be great but of all the other QBs in the draft one is heads and shoulders above the rest I would be fine in trading up to get him . Drew Lock. Drew Lock has an incredible arm. He can throw a 35 yard out with smoking zip on it. I mean following the same path from throw to catch. No rainbow. He can scramble and throw too. I want lLock or Rosen or wait until next year. Lock is a rare talent. I watched all his tape and I'm sold. Forget Haskins and Jones. Big mistake if we take one of them. Lock is a Lock. If not Lock then Rosen or get Burns Hockenson or Jonah Williams with the 15th pick and roll with Colt McCoy.

If Will Grier had a better arm i would be all for getting him. He has everything you need except strength of arm. He would work if you had incredible route runners and Offensive Line and a running game. Lock can throw his way out of trouble no matter what. This is sort of a stretch but a Drew Lock arm on Will Grier would be a must have. Drew Lock is close to will Grier with accuracy and intangibles. But Drew Lock is the best QB we can hope to get next to Rosen. Or maybe even better than Rosen. It's a toss up.

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:50 pm

by **riggofan** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:36 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:13 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:46 am

by **SkinsJock** » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:52 pm

by **Sonny9TD** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:41 pm

by **SkinsJock** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:03 pm

let's not make things worse - we don't have wiz kids in control here so we just need to keep adding as many good players as we can and hope that we eventually get some people in here that can re-build this franchise - that is just not happening by continuing to do what we've been doing and making bad decisions

everyone agrees that we need a good QB but we might get one anyway at #15 and if we don't get one in this draft there's a really good chance we can get one in the next because we'll likely have a pretty high draft pick and we can bring in a good young QB and get him ready to play under the guidance of the new HC that we're most likely getting as well

thinking that we're just a good QB away from having a playoff team this season is the kind of thinking that got us in this mess in the first place

by **riggofan** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:40 pm

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:11 pm

by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 am

Scares me away most every thread tbh...

As I see it.. We can get Rosen, who with a better Oline and help from the running game has potential to be a stud. People already forgot about Guice... I cant wait to see him light the league on fire!!

OR pray to the gods that half the league (who finished wprse then us last year) passes on Lock or another qb who is = to or close to him.. And thats a BIG IF.
Trading up costs more then Rosen- so whats the point in that mess?

Idk, i kind of think we go after Rosen.. Be nice if we can give them our 1st and swap 2nds or something

by **riggofan** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:16 am

by **riggofan** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:20 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:24 am

by **riggofan** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:45 am

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:18 am

by **El Mexican** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:12 pm

Actually, Allen's on record saying something like "getting the best talent independent of position need".

We've actually traded down, if I remember correctly?

Gone are the halcyon days of the Snyder-Vinny combo, even if their legacy lives forever :lol:

by **Burgundy&GoldForever** » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:22 pm

by **riggofan** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:22 am

by **riggofan** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:28 am